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Saturday, January 15, 2005

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ESPN has a nice transcript of a forum hosted by Baseball America's Alan Schwartz about the divide between traditional scouts and the "stat guys". Voros McCracken, inventor of DIPS, and Gary Huckabay of Baseball Prospectus represented the stats guys against the scouts: the Cubs Gary Hughes and the Angels Eddie Bane. It's an interesting discussion, mostly because of how angry the scouts (especially Bane) were about the book Moneyball. I'll let everyone read for themselves, but I think that the "stats guys" carried the day.

I have yet to read the old school mount a truly effective assault on the ideas of Moneyball. There's a lot of sputtering about "resentment" on the part of the old guard and venom towards Billy Beane, but the basic intellectual ideas of sabremetrics haven't been challenged. Can you really dispute things like DIPS and the newcomers skepticism towards high schoolers vs. college players? Until the old guard mounts an intellectually clear and vigorous counter-attack, they are going to continue to lose the battle of ideas with the sabremetricians.

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