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Monday, March 13, 2006

Season Preview: Is Pitching Really the Phillies Achilles Heel? 

In a word: Yes.

Compared with the Marlins, Mets, Braves and even the Nats, most people have pegged the Phillies as having the weakest pitching corps in the NL East last year and this year. I personally never bought the idea that the Phillies were really pitching weak last year, and I believe that the Phillies ’05 pitching staff was badly under-rated. No longer: the pitching corps regressed for 2006 and we’ll be fortunate to see them perform as well as they did last season.

So what went wrong in the off-season? The departure of Billy Wagner? No. The trade of Vicente Padilla? Not really. GM Pat Gillick’s decision to sign Ryan Franklin to the team and hand him the No. 4 slot in the rotation. It was a bad decision. Very bad. But I'm getting to that.

Let’s back up for a moment. What happened in 2005? A look at the numbers:

NL East – ERA
Mets: 3.76
Nats: 3.87
Braves: 3.99
Marlins: 4.16
Phillies: 4.21
NL average: 4.22

Interestingly, all five NL East teams out-performed the league ERA.

Confused about what I’m talking about? Here are the stats I refer to in this section defined:
ERA – Earned Run Average: (Earned Runs * 9) / IP = ERA
FIP – Fielding Independent Pitching: (13*HR+3*BB-2*K / IP) + League Factor Evaluates a pitching by how he would have done with an average defense behind him by keeping track of things that a pitcher can control (walks, strikeouts, home runs allowed) as opposed to things he cannot (hits allowed, runs allowed).
DER – Defense Efficiency Ratio: (Batters Faced – (Hits + Walks + Hit By Pitch + Strikeouts)) / (Batters Faced – (Home Runs, Walks + Hit By Pitch + Strikeouts)) How often fielders convert balls put into play into outs.G/F – Groundball-to-Flyball ratio.
Hr/9 – Home Runs allowed per nine innings.
K/9 – Strikeouts per nine innings.
BB/9 – Walks per nine innings.
WHIP – Walks plus hits by innings pitched: (BB + H) / IP = WHIP

Got it? Now look at the NL East FIP ERA:

Marlins: 3.77
Mets: 3.94
Nats: 4.12
Braves: 4.15
Phillies: 4.25
NL average: 4.22

Aside from the Marlins, no NL East team out-pitched its team ERA. Essentially this means that the Nats, Phillies, Mets and Braves pitched worse than their ERAs actually were and posted good numbers because they had good defenses behind them. Indeed, the Phillies had the second-best team defense in the entire NL, with a .705 DER. (See, my next season preview segment.)

NL East DER:
Phillies: .705

Mets: .702
Nats: .698
Braves: .694
Marlins: .678
Nl average: .694

What did the Phillies do right in '05?:

Phillies / League Average
K/9: 7.3 / 6.5
BB/9: 3.1 / 3.3
HR/9: 1.2 / 1.0
SLG.: .426 / .418
G/F: 1.34 / 1.31

The Phillies struck out more batters on average and allowed fewer walks than average. I’ve said in the past that for the Phillies to be successful they have to keep “cheap” runners off the base-paths (i.e., no walks) and take care of business (i.e., strike guys out or get them to ground out). I think, despite the popular perception to the contrary, they did that in ’05.

The Phillies problem still remains their lethal inability to get guys to hit the ball on the ground with greater consistency. Their 1.34 groundball-flyball ratio is very good (better than the league average and a huge improvement over their 1.09 in 2004), but they can and should do better. Note that the Phillies decision to shift the rotation to groundball pitchers (Lieber, Lidle) as opposed to flyballers (Eric Milton) has borne fruit: the team ERA declined from 4.45 (13th) to 4.21 (10th) between 2004 & 2005. If the Phillies continue to emphasize groundball pitchers (which it doesn't seem like Pat Gillick will: See, my forthcoming rant on Ryan Franklin) I think the team will turn the corner and become a good pitching team.

Naturally, the long-ball continues to plauge the Phillies. The fact that 14% of flyballs allowed by the team turned into home runs is troubling stuff. Notice that the Phillies slugging percentage allowed is far too high: the Phillies were 12th in the NL and worst in the division:

NL East:
Mets: .387
Nats: .396
Marlins: .402
Braves: .406
Phillies: .426
NL average: .418

So will the Phillies improve on those numbers in 2006? I doubt it. I’m not typically a pessimist, but I see a lot of room to be pessimistic about the Phillies pitching staff. It has definitely declined in quality from the last few years. Pat Gillick has said that the team needs to upgrade its pitching (a comment that really got under Brett Myers skin, I noticed), but he really hasn’t done much to do so. In fact, under Gillick, the team’s pitching has gotten worse. Vicente Padilla didn’t pitch well in ’05, but he’s a much better pitcher than Ryan Franklin, his replacement in the starting rotation.

The Phillies will soon regret their decision to sign Ryan Franklin to a contract more than any other decision they’ve made in this off-season or any other off-season in recent memory. If there was a moment where Phillies fans can point at Gillick and exclaim: “You sabotaged the team!”, it is that one.

Let’s look at Franklin’s 2005 stats:

ERA: 5.10
FIP: 5.08
K/9: 4.3
BB/9: 2.8
HR/9: 1.29
G/F: 1.01

These are stats that should make every Phillies fan cringe and wonder what Gillick is thinking: why would this team bring a struggling flyball pitcher into a park with a lethal reputation (though not entirely deserved) of being a home-run hitters park? If Ryan Franklin struggled in Safeco Field, one of the friendliest parks to pitchers in the major leagues, then how is he going to do in a park pundits think is Coors Field East?

I’ve said in the past (ad nauseam, I suspect) that for the Phillies to be successful pitching at Citizens, they need to develop and retain pitchers that don’t surrender walks and keep the ball down. Their decision to sign Jon Lieber was one I applauded: Lieber had a tremendous groundball-flyball ratio, and almost never surrendered walks. Even last year, a down year for him, he still surrendered just 41 walks in 218 innings pitched (he gave up just 18 in 176 innings as a Yankee in 2004).

I’m baffled by their decision to bring on Franklin. He’s essentially a flyball pitcher who allows too many walks and doesn’t strike enough people out. If he was giving up 1.29 home runs a game in Seattle, he’ll threaten to surrender 2 every nine innings in Philly. This guy has Eric Milton II written all over him.

Franklin will join a rotation that I otherwise think is pretty decent: Jon Lieber, Cory Lidle and Brett Myers. Randy Wolf will probably be back late in the season: Ryan Madson will move from the bullpen to the rotation until that happens.

What do I like about Lidle, Myers and Lieber? These are three guys who throw balls down and force batters to hit into a lot of 6-3, 4-3 and 5-3 groundouts. Here are Lieber, Lidle, Myers & Wolf in a nutshell:

Jon Lieber. I was very high on Jon Lieber when the Phillies signed him in the fall of 2004. Here, I exaulted, was a great move. Lieber was stingy with walks (gave up 18 in 176 innings, 0.91 per 9 innings. He actually gave up fewer walks with the Yankees than he did home runs - 20), and his FIP ERA was significantly better than his "real" ERA (3.94 vs. 4.33). Here, I thought, was a pitcher who could keep the ball down and benefit from having a strong fielding team behind him. I'm mildly disappointed by Lieber's 2005 campaign, but I think he essentially pitched well and he'll do very well in 2006.

His 2005 stats:

ERA: 4.20
FIP: 4.23 (+0.03)
K/9: 6.3
BB/9: 1.7
HR/9: 1.36
DER: .722
G/F: 1.40

Compared with his '04 stats:

ERA: 4.33
FIP: 3.94 (-0.39)
K/9: 5.2
BB/9: 0.9
HR/9: 1.0
DER: .677
G/F: 1.43

The Phillies got pretty much what they expected with Lieber: his groundball-flyball ratio is essentially unchanged (1.43 vs. 1.40). He actually struck out a few more people than in '04, but surrendered more home runs and walks. I'd expect the same walk rate in 2006, but I expect Lieber will lower the number of home runs in '06: he gave up 33 home runs in 218 innings, compared to 20 in 176 innings in 2004. I think the adjustment to a new park caught Lieber by surprise. Before the All-Star Break Lieber gave up 23 home runs in 111 innings of work (1.86 per 9 innings). Post All-Star Break: 10 home runs in 107 innings: 0.84. Lieber pitched like a new man after the All-Star Break: 9-5 (8-8 before), with a 3.28 ERA, compared to 5.09 prior. Lieber finally turned the corner and pitched just like the Phillies figured he would. I expect to see Lieber's numbers closer to his '04 totals in 2006. He'll be a tough pitcher for Phillies foes to try and get around: I think his ERA will go below 4.00 and he'll win 17-20 games. If Jon Lieber can go back to surrendering less than one home run per 9 innings, which I think he can, the Phillies will be estatic.

This guy is the Phillies ace pitcher.

Cory Lidle. Sure, Brett Myers pitched a good season in 2005: 13-8, 3.72 ERA. But Cory Lidle was probably the Phillies best pitcher in 2005 (Lieber's horrific pre All-Star performance killed his chances). The proof is in the numbers:

ERA: 4.53
FIP: 3.71 (-0.83)
K/9: 5.9
BB/9: 1.9
HR/9: 0.87
DER: .684
G/F: 1.95

The number that is eye-popping to me is Lidle's home runs: 0.87 per 9. Even more eye-popping is the fact that Lidle gave up just 6 home runs in 77 2/3 innings of work at home. That's just 0.69 per 9 innings as Citizen's!

Lidle keeps the ball down. That's his secret. He strikes some guys out, he keeps them off the basepaths (few walks) and he keeps the ball out of the bleachers. Mostly Lidle has guys hitting the ball into the ground for Utley, Rollins and the rest of the Phillies defense to deal with. As you can see, they didn't do a great job backing Lidle up: his DER was .021 behind the team average. Improved defense will probably dramatically lower Lidle's ERA.

Simply put, Lidle is a great third starter. I think he'll improve on his '05 performance and get his ERA down to around 4.20 or 4.10.

Brett Myers. Ok, Brett Myers had a nice season in 2005. I doubt it will be repeated though. Here are the numbers:

ERA: 3.72
FIP: 4.04 (+0.32)
K/9: 8.8
BB/9: 2.9
HR/9: 1.31
DER: .724
G/F: 1.51

What is interesting about Myers '05 season is to compare it to his horrendous '04 campaign: 5.52 ERA, 1.6 HR/9; 5.9 K/9, 3.2 BB/9. I held out the hope that Myers would improve and he did, in spades. He gave up 31 home runs both years, but he pitched 41 more innings in 2005. Myers seemed to gain significant velocity on his pitches and became a strikeout artist: he K'd nearly 3 extra batters per 9 innings, a 50% increase.

I don't see Brett duplicating his 2005 performance. I note, disturbingly, that Brett gave up 17 home runs in 100 Post All-Star innings: 1.53 per 9, virtually the same rate (1.59) that he surrendered homers in 2004. I suspect that Myers' blistering hot start was largely a fluke: hitters having difficulty adjusting to his improved stuff. I worry that Brett still surrenders too many home runs (particularly for a groundball pitcher) and that he'll get batted around in '05. Personally, I suspect his ERA will climb into the 4.15-4.25 range for '06.

Brett's a good pitcher, but he's not the Phillies ace: Lieber is.

Randy Wolf. I suspect that Randy will no longer be with the Phils after his return to the team later in the season. Randy has been with the team for a while and I think Pat Gillick will be interested in using him as trade bait once he shows his arm is healed. Here are Randy's '05 numbers:

ERA: 4.39
FIP: 4.95 (+0.57)
K/9: 6.8
BB/9: 2.9
HR/9: 1.55
DER: .695
G/F: 0.83

Interestingly, despite being a flyball pitcher, Randy did pretty darn well at home:

Home / Road
ERA: 3.43 / 5.60
HR/9: 1.20 / 2.05
BB/9: 2.80 / 3.08
K/9: 7.00 / 6.69

I would have assumed those numbers would have been reversed. In '04 Wolf got hit up at home: 4.95 home ERA compared to a supurb 3.43 road ERA. Randy pitched well at home, though I caution that those numbers are based on just forty-four and 2/3 innings of work.

Ultimately, I suspect that Randy is trade bait, especially if Ryan Madson or Gavin Floyd pitch well in his absence (I understand that Ryan is slated to pitch in Randy's slot because the Phillies are trying to rehab Gavin from getting shelled last year). Randy

On to the Bullpen … Generally speaking, the Phillies bullpen out-pitched the Phillies starting rotation in 2004. Last year the shoe was on the other foot. While the numbers were generally even, notice that the starters did have a slight advantage:

2005: Starters / Relievers
BB/9: 2.84 / 3.46
K/9: 6.87 / 8.06
HR/9: 1.19 / 1.17
ERA: 4.20 / 4.24
WHIP: 1.31 / 1.28

Many fewer walks allowed, which translated to fewer runs allowed when teams hit home runs, which gives the starters a slight edge in ERA. Notice that the home runs allowed were very even. The only place where the relief corps bested the starters was in strikeouts, not a big surprise given that pitchers like Lidle and Lieber rely on grounders rather than K’s.

Check out the differences in ’03 & ’04:

2004: Starters / Relievers
BB/9: 3.13 / 3.02
K/9: 6.41 / 6.88
HR/9: 1.47 / 1.05
ERA: 4.91 / 3.68
WHIP: 1.40 / 1.29

The Relief Corps definitely outdid the starters, though those numbers are Eric Milton inflated. What is interesting to me is how the relievers succeeded in keeping the ball down in ’04: that is a massive variance between the numbers of home runs allowed.

2003: Starters / Relievers
BB/9: 3.17 / 3.86
K/9: 6.75 / 6.31
HR/9: 0.97 / 0.72
ERA: 4.20 / 3.72
WHIP: 1.32 / 1.35

The starters were probably just as good as the relievers in ’03, despite the ERA differential.

How will the ’06 bullpen be? That’s a good question. Almost certainly, not as good. Let’s start with two players the Phillies won’t have back in ’06: Billy Wagner & Ugueth Urbina:

The Phillies are going to miss Billy Wagner. Scope out his stats:

Billy Wagner:
BB/9: 2.6
K/9: 11.2
HR/9: 0.77
ERA: 1.51
FIP: 2.66 (+1.15)
G/F: 1.29

Wagner was remarkably consistent with the Phillies. He struck out 11 batters per 9 innings in 2004 as well. For being a flyball pitcher, he didn’t give up many home runs at Citizens:

2005: 0.75 per 9 innings at home
2004: 0.67 per 9 innings at home

He was a “lights out” closer, a la Mariano Rivera. His two years in Philly were anything but fun for him, so he decided to head up 95 to Queens and pitch for the Mets. I’m sorry to see him go, but he turns 34 this year and might be on the downslope of his career. One thing about closers is that when they lose their stuff they collapse in a hurry. The key to Billy Wagner has always been his 100 mph fastball that few players can hit. I wouldn’t want Wagner closing games with a reduction in his speed.

That said, the Phillies have definitely downgraded their closer, going with ex-Yankee Tom Gordon. Gordon’s 38 and isn’t coming off the hottest season:

K/9: 8.2
BB/9: 3.40
HR/9: 0.94
ERA: 2.57
FIP: 3.72 (+1.15)
G/F: 1.51

While I like the fact that he kept the ball down (that 1.51 g/f ratio), he allowed far too many walks: 3.4 per 9 innings. Allowing that many “cheap” base-runners won’t cut it. Add in the fact that he’s 38 and his best seasons are behind him … Let’s face it, Tom Gordon is a poor replacement for a closer of Billy Wagner’s abilities. We’re going to miss Billy this season.

One player the Phillies shouldn’t miss is Ugueth Urbina, the Phillies reliever who will not be playing in 2006 for what I would called euphemistically “personal reasons” (i.e., his pending attempted murder charge in Venezuela). Check out Urbina’s stats:

Ugueth Urbina:
BB/9: 4.5
K/9: 11.8
HR/9: 1.43
ERA: 4.13
FIP: 3.90 (-0.23)
G/F: 0.52

His acquisition was not one of Ed Wade’s finer moments. What possessed the team to add a flyball pitcher to the bullpen is beyond me.

Ryan Madson is probably the team’s best bullpen pitcher, so it is a shame that he might not even spend any time in the bullpen this season: Ryan is supposedly slated to start the season as the Phillies #5 starter until Randy Wolf returns. I suspect that Ryan won’t be going back to ‘pen because he’ll turn in an excellent performance and probably give the Phils the ability to deal Randy. Why are Phillies bloggers so high on Ryan? Check out the numbers:

Ryan Madson:
BB/9: 2.6
K/9: 8.3
HR/9: 1.16
ERA: 4.14
FIP: 3.90 (-0.24)
G/F: 1.78

Ryan does a decent job keeping the opposition off the base-paths and keeping the ball down. Notice that, despite being a groundball pitcher, Ryan gets the job done: he gets nearly a K an inning. Look at those numbers also with the knowledge that Ryan pitched substantially better in 2004:

BB/9: 2.13*
K/9: 6.51*
HR/9: 0.36*
ERA: 2.34
FIP: 3.59
G/F: 1.89

* considering only Madson’s relief appearances, subtracting his disastrous start against the White Sox.

Ryan is a fantastic pitcher and I’m very unhappy about his move to the rotation: simply put, this team needs some depth in the bullpen and Ryan is the best relief pitcher we have now. I’d honestly prefer to see him move into the role of closer. Nobody quite keeps the ball down as well as Ryan does or takes care of business the way Ryan does. After Jon Lieber, he’s probably the Phillies best pitcher.

After Ryan there is a big drop off: Aaron Fultz, Rheal Cormier and Geoff Geary are all back.. All three are serviceable pitchers, though I am disappointed by how many cheap home runs Cormier allowed, considering his absurdly good 2.03 g/f ratio:

Aaron Fultz:
BB/9: 3.1
K/9: 7.2
HR/9: 0.80
ERA: 2.24
FIP: 3.75 (+1.51)
G/F: 1.03

Rheal Cormier:
BB/9: 2.9
K/9: 6.2
HR/9: 1.64
ERA: 5.89
FIP: 5.18
G/F: 2.03

Geoff Geary:
BB/9: 3.3
K/9: 6.5
HR/9: 0.78
ERA: 3.72
FIP: 3.81 (+0.09)
G/F: 1.36

The other big addition to the Phillies bullpen is Arthur Rhodes, part of the team’s deal with the Cleveland Indians for Jason Michaels. I always liked Michaels: he was a terrific fourth outfielder, always able to join in and play good D in center and get on-base. Rhodes has a good arm and could replace Tom Gordon as the Phillies closer if things go badly, but I don’t think it was an even exchange. Here are Rhodes stats:

BB/9: 2.51
K/9: 9.0
HR/9: 0.41
ERA: 2.08
FIP: 2.58 (+0.50)
G/F: 1.14

Aside from his g/f ratio, I’m fairly impressed. He surrendered just 2 home runs in 43 innings of work, which is pretty good. I actually think he’d be a better closer than Gordon because he seems to keep the ball down and get K’s. I’m mostly wary of the fact that he’s 36, which puts the combined age of the Phillies top two relievers at 74.

Ryan is 25.

What about Robinson Tejeda? I have to admit being rather surprised at his success in 2005. Consider:

G/F: 0.82
ERA: 3.57
FIP: 4.15 (+0.57)

Okay. But look at some of Robinson’s other stats:

BB/9: 5.40
K/9: 7.62
HR/9: 0.53 (0.59 at home)

Huh? 5 home runs in 85 and 2/3 innings when he was giving up more flyballs than grounders? Nearly 5 walks per 9 innings?

None of these stats make any sense whatsoever. A flyball pitcher cannot get away with just five home runs in 46 innings at Citizens. Can’t be done. A pitcher cannot survive surrendering five and a half walks every 9 innings either.

This guy is all wrong for the Phillies and he got very lucky last year. If the Phillies think that he’ll give them something similar in ’06, they are hopelessly naïve. Any flyball pitcher who walks guys by the bushel will get shelled at Citizens. Simple as that.

Conclusions. Look for …

… Jon Lieber to have a great season …
… Ryan Madson to pitch well as the Phils extra starter and join the rotation …
… Cory Lidle to have a good season …
… Brett Myers to fall-off and surrender a lot of home runs …
… Tom Gordon to get shelled and blow a few games …
… Arthur Rhodes to take over the reliever role …
… or see the Phils deal Randy Wolf for one …

… And finally, look for Ryan Franklin to get clobbered. Badly.

The bottom-line is that the pitching staff has regressed a lot. I don’t think it is as strong as it was in 2005, and it will continue to get no respect from observers. Sure, I think Lidle, Lieber, Myers and Madson will give the Phils great innings. Sure, I think there is some talent in the ‘pen. And maybe I’m 100% off-base about Tejada.

But I don’t think so. I’d look for the Phillies to rank in the bottom-half of the league in terms of ERA. The Phils tremendous fielding and their ability to put runs on the board will help a lot, but this is the Phillies Achilles Hell.

Thank you for reading Part I of my season preview. I'll be publishing Part II, Fielding, next Monday.

Great, comprehensive post, mike. I disagree slightly with your outlook on myers - I would expect the bb/9 to continue to improve, but I freely admit that this is because I think myers is going to continue to improve overall from 2004's post-rookie slump.

Word all over spring training is that ryan franklin still isn't guaranteed that #4/#5 spot - manuel keeps saying it - so I don't know whether going back to floyd might be a possibility, or combining floyd with tejeda. Both may improve and surprise as they're still young and learning - Franklin will not. And if he keeps posting the shoddy numbers he's posting now, I could see tejeda getting #5 and madson moving to #4.

Regarding wolf - I'd hold onto the guy maybe one more year if possible - I want to see how he responds coming out of tommy john surgery.

My feeling is that the rotation and bullpen are far more unpredictable this year. That's not a great place to be in, but its not perhaps as grim as the numbers from the previous years predict.
Love the individual pitcher analysis, although I think looking at overall team ERA is very misleading because it doesnt account for the fact Citizen's Bank is a hitter's park. All teams have bad ERAs there because both teams score alot of runs, so I wouldnt be care too much if they indeed had a bad team ERA if they are still winning and pitching good on the road, which they do. I'm still concerned about their pitching this year (I think it's worse than last years; you're spot on about Franklin), but I've always argued to my friends that the staff had a pretty good year last year. The Phillies had the 2nd BEST Road ERA last year in the NL behind the Cardinals and best in the NL East:

Road Team ERA
Phils: 3.93
Mets: 4.08
Braves: 4.16
Nats: 4.19
Marlins: 4.51

This is actually pretty impressive, I think. Granted these are biased in the same way because the other teams have to play at Citizen's Bank on the road for 18 games or so, but it's another piece of the puzzle. Another odd fact is that their day ERA is 3.30, way better than any other team in the league. The wind picks up in the evening at Citizen's Bank..
Part of the day ERA discrepency for day vs. night can probably be linked to Lidle. I believe his split was 3+ vs. 6+ for day vs. nite. that's got to throw the numbers out of whack for the whole team. there's probably something about shadows at home plate as well. i wonder what the league split is on day vs. night. i remember the game at RFK where myers found out in the third inning that the hitters couldn't see the ball and he just started attacking the plate through the shadows. in any case, the franklin signing stinks, but its in part because floyd and tejeda don't appear to be ready. they've got to out pitch a below average starter to get jobs and floyd especially shoudl be able to do that by now. i would not be surprised to see franklin not make it the whole year.
Interesting stuff, but I must quibble with three things, at least. The road ERA is a bit misleading because their division has two extreme pitcher's parks and 2 other pitcher's parks, so it's naturally going to skew the Phils ERA. All the other teams come here, which I don't think is some IMMENSE hitter's park, but it was last year.

Also, I think that Wagner will decline this year, and that we would lose that arm in our pen no matter what. We didn't have to go out and get a bunch of old arms to replace him, though.

Finally, I think you put your best pitchers in the place where they can best help you, and that is the rotation. Thus, Madson, who is probably our 3rd best pitcher behind Myers and Lieber, and I think has a chance to be 2nd best behind Myers, deserves a spot in the rotation.
are we forgetting the lineup? i might take the phillies lineup over the yankees... for this year!!!!! obviously you take the phillies when taking age but even as they are, phillies can flat out rake... the staff? i don't know... i don't see myers having the down season you do... i think gillicks comments have pissed him off, he might have a career season and have it be the begging of a #1 type pitcher he really can be... (phillie execs have compared him to schilling)... franklin... ojnvfiovbishvbshvbohvb... i hope he never gets a chance to pitch at anything but the homerun derby... leiber... good, solid pitcher, glad to have him on my staff, madson... will be a servicible starter, no reason to think he won't... tejada, he showed promise... he needs to cut down on the walks, and therefore the drama, but he could be good, real good, forget the walks and the free runs and the guy was incredible... but their is the idea of being effectively wild... wonder if tejada is that? anyway keep posting... love the numbers... by the way, i used to role multiple dice in order to play my own baseball season, at a young age, because i understood baseball stats i was able to use statistics to create a pretty acurate dice baseball game... based on the talents of the players on each team... thought a guy that loves numbers and sabermetrics might enjoy hearing that another guy was, at twelve, using baseball statistics to create a league based on probability by statistics and a die roll to determine the outcome of an at-bat, a game, a season, and a league... and keep scores and stats... as you can guess, i got in trouble for not doing much homework... i did this in the off-season... you know, during the school year
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I appreciate the thoughts expressed here ...

FP: probably right about Wagner's decline, but I think that Tom Gordon will be terrible. Far worse than Billy will be for the Mets. Right on about Road ERA ... As for the rotation, sure, I'd like to see our strongest pitchers in the rotation, but we need relievers to secure those leads. Think how much strain it is on the starters to think: "I have to be perfect, I have to go 8-9 innings in order to win tonight because the bullpen will blow it..." Our bullpen has the potential to be terrible this year. We need to be careful.

Osin: I left out Gavin Floyd b/c I think the Phils will try to rehab him from last year's mini-disasters. Don't expect to see him unless the Phils fall out of contention and they want to work on '07.

Thanks for the comments fellas! Stay tuned for Part II!
Hey Mike--great piece, though I'm more optimistic about the rotation than you seem to be. Myers took a long step forward last year as his previously ten-cent head caught up somewhat with that million-dollar arm; I think Lieber, with his workmanlike approach and emphasis on pace, really helped him out. Brett was worse in September, granted; I think he simply wore down, as he wasn't in the greatest shape. By all accounts he reported to camp in better condition this year, and as he's poised to really start making serious money, I don't expect a repeat of the late-season slide. He should win 17 or so, as should Lieber.

Madson's health concerns me a bit, because of his physique and his mechanics, but if he holds up, he'll be among the better back-of-the-rotation guys in the game. You're a bit higher on Lidle than I am, but he's a solid #3 or #4. Franklin--whose signing I deplored--has been okay this spring, though I still expect him to stink up the joint once the games really count. Thing is, though, the Phils should have options if/when his ERA settles in the 6-7 area; between Floyd, Tejeda, and Hamels, someone should be ready to replace him by midseason. He won't get the chance to set the HR-allowed record he seems destined for.

I'm more concerned about the bullpen, but the key there might again be the team's wealth of options. Aside from Gordon, Rhodes and--unfortunately--Cormier, nobody has such a big contract that they can't be shipped out in favor of a Yoel Hernandez or Travis Minix or Brian Sanches, as conditions dictate. Manuel's managing for his job, too; he's not going to screw around.

Again I'm catching up. My day job prevents me from reading your work. I also disagree about Myers, a 5.3 k/9-8 k/9 is difficult to ignore, especially as his walk rate continues to decline and. He does give up a lot of homers, but I don't know that it can be avoided in this ballpark. That being said, I remember how much you lauded the Lieber signing when others dismissed it as a second-tier so what move (If Urbina was Wade's worst move than Lieber has to be near his best). I'm not nearly as high on Lidle, although his hr rate is impressive, he just seemed very hittable at crucial times last season. As far as Madson, I think he has to start and a middle reliever/setup man must emerge from the ranks. Madson was groomed as a starter and I believe that you waste his potential in a setup role. I also think that Gordon can be more than adequate this season, although beyond this season is a serious concern. Franklin has had a good spring and the franchise had had it with Padilla (they freely admit as much). I'm not sure that the best move was getting rid of him, but I can't assume to know as much as they do. I do think the pitching staff has the potential to do better than last season, but I've been accused of being too much of an optimist before.

Anyway, we appreciate the food for thought. It's good to catch up.

Brian, Philling Station
great topic, keep up the great posts, MMA
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